JJJ and the Shout Box

[yC]

Regarding recent events happened in the forum.  First I apologize for suspending the shout box until further notice.  I do not want any member of this forum to feel unwelcome due to the amount of insults and attacks happen daily in the shout box.  The shout box chat often go unmoderated simply because none of our staff member have the capability of looking after the shout box 24/7. 

When will it be back?  I will quote myself from another post:

until the user of this forum can follow the forum outlined rules/guidelines, stop attacking new member or any other and an observable stop to i-dont-need-to-follow-your-rule-moderator-can-go-away-i-do-what-i-want speeches/actions.

Yes, a few people ruined the fun for everybody.  You can say that and that's how it work here.  Sorry for any inconvenience but it is done for a good intension.  Hopefully we can make it less fruitful for those  i-dont-need-to-follow-your-rule-moderator-can-go-away-i-do-what-i-want members.


Regarding JJJ's suitability as a moderator.  It is an internal matter of this forum.  As much as freedom of speech is appreciated in this forum, a moderator's job is not up for discussion.  That is off the limit of free speech because it will affect JJJ, his job and the way the forum readers sees him in the future.

Simply put, how would you feel if your boss, your co-workers and your clients all get together and judge your work performance.  In front of everybody in the company.  This is not the right way to report this matter.  If you have a problem with any of our staff, you should private message your concern to either me or Riotblade.  With as much details as possible, proof/example would help too. 

Or if that's a too hard of an example to understand.  Imagine if we allow topics in the suggestion section where one member can suggest "can we ban <your name here>".  If you have enough enemy in the forum, surely the topic will eventually sound like you should be banned a long time ago.  Manipulation works.

A staff removable can't be as simple as making a suggestion and get a few people to tell their bad experience.  How is this fair, especially there is always the chance where those that appreciated his work might not make a post of appreciation but those that had an unpleasant experience will all jump in. 

Based on what I read today.  I've talked to JJJ and I gave him further guidance on doing his job.  I will observe his work in the future.  I will mention this once again.  If anyone think he/she is going to do a good job moderating this forum, feel free to send in a resume and tell me why in private message.  I will post the resume in the staff area and consider them seriously with my staff.

That's all I need to say for now.  Start a flame/troll/spam right here and I will sure delete/lock. 

Thank you for reading.

- yC

[Loki]

Or if that's a too hard of an example to understand.  Imagine if we allow topics in the suggestion section where one member can suggest "can we ban <your name here>".  If you have enough enemy in the forum, surely the topic will eventually sound like you should be banned a long time ago.  Manipulation works.

That's totally different context from what Descent suggested. We did not judge JJJ individually. Most of us are active members on this forum and have been here for a long time. Most of them were taken actions against JJJ unfairly. She has also made some pretty bad judgments for her part.

I hope you take this into consideration, yC.

Regards,
Loki

[LiteX]

Or if that's a too hard of an example to understand.  Imagine if we allow topics in the suggestion section where one member can suggest "can we ban <your name here>".  If you have enough enemy in the forum, surely the topic will eventually sound like you should be banned a long time ago.  Manipulation works.

That's totally different context from what Descent suggested. We did not judge JJJ individually. Most of us are active members on this forum and have been here for a long time. Most of them were taken actions against JJJ unfairly. She has also made some pretty bad judgments for her part.

I hope you take this into consideration, yC.

Regards,
Loki

What i think Descent meant by that, I think he meant her "Be nice to everyone, including trolls and flamers" attitude, she only interfered when things were really out of control, not when it was beggining, so people were starting provocations and stuff happened... And big flame wars start like small provocations...
I'm really not against her or Descent though...

[yC]

Loki, you are welcome to pm me or Riotblade about your concerns.  With as much details as possible.

I know you have been around for a long time.  I want to listen to what you have to say about JJJ.  In pm because as I stated I don't want bunch of people to jump in and start judging JJJ left and right openly.