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« Reply #15 on: Feb 21, 2009, 09:54 am » |
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Of course he cared to leave out dozens of screenshots.
I said several times to him that day that I -always- spawn mobs in town. If I see a novice, I spawn porings. If I run an event, I spawn porings. Hell, sometimes I spawn porings just cause it's RO and they're kind of the "trademark".
I admit I <could> have banned him that day early on, but this guy really annoyed the hell out of me, so as I said, I did get a bit immature. Which is why I stated that I agree I did that and that I will probably continue to do such things to people that act like him.
Oh, and for the record I didn't used to act like this on past servers I've owned or GM'd at. Not that I really give a damn about what any of -you- think. It's the members of my server that I respect their opinions. If they don't like the way I'm doing stuff, they can speak up. Whatever you lot that have NOTHING to do with this matter think can be flushed down a toilet for all I care.
Edit/additon: JJJ : I wasn't saying that the four members are why I lost respect for RMS. I lost respect for RMS for delisting me because of this persons one-sided story. I understand RMS doesn't have time to individually review every case, but it's still unfair to my players to lose a advertising way to help the community grow just because one player so far has been unsatisfied with the way I do things.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 21, 2009, 09:57 am » |
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Oh, and for the record I didn't used to act like this on past servers I've owned or GM'd at. Not that I really give a damn about what any of -you- think.
Lige, So you don't care about what we think, yet you felt the urge to come all the way back here and notify us of this?  You're rather funny Lige. Try harder next time okay? I almost felt hurt by reading that.  Good day.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 21, 2009, 09:57 am » |
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I said several times to him that day that I -always- spawn mobs in town. If I see a novice, I spawn porings. If I run an event, I spawn porings. Hell, sometimes I spawn porings just cause it's RO and they're kind of the "trademark".
I had no porings spawned for me I lost respect for RMS for delisting me because of this persons one-sided story Your server violated the tos. even if it wasn't me reporting it, you still deserve to be delisted
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:01 am » |
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PoisonWolf: I'm replying to this topic so any of my members or possible future members that read this know that it's a load of BS and that they can form their own opinions from what happend.
Touchdown: I'm -honestly- sorry that no porings were spawned for you, I didn't see you until you were past novice, or I would have. Either way, it doesn't really matter. Porings aren't going to imbalance a server.
Edit/addition: Since both of these topics came to my attention at the same time I got mixed up between the two. I already replied in the delisting topic, and Touchdown, you're right that the delisting was my fault. So mods/RMS staff: I do apologize for speaking negative towards you. Two issues going on at once while I'm getting ready for work is a little odd xP
RMS is blocked via web filter at my work place, and most proxies I use are blocked by RMS, so I probably wont be able to reply again today. Just FYI.
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:03 am » |
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Yea, Just to point something out. You guys should get somewhat of an idea of what kind of a person Touchdown is. Critsizing a server is fine, but to come back and rubb it in the Admin's face with an "oops". It at least tells me what kind of a person he is even though I don't know him.
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:05 am » |
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First of all, let me just say that to judge someone or even something from 4 screenshots is ridiculous.
Secondly, I would like to point out that I can wholeheartedly recommend WolfRO to anyone and everyone with a maturity level over that of the average 3-year-old.
Hence, why I wouldn't have recommended my server to Touchdown.
I don't have screenshots or pictures or chatlogs of what has been done, but I can tell you without any reserve that Touchdown deserved what he got. He got a warning, several actually that I know of, before Lige did anything. He intentionally flamed and insulted Lige along with other members. I think it takes great mercy not to ban this jerk from our server in hopes that maybe our maturity may rub off on him. Sadly, that mercy proves to have been wasted.
Had Touchdown, or whatever his name is on here, I don't really care, decided to not be a pompous, disrespectful, and agonizingly irritating donkey to everyone he met, her might not have met with such difficulty in the server.
Next, let me say that circumstances do justify action, as seen in the "Self-Defense Plea" of our legal system. Lige at that time was speaking to me and other members of the server about some hardships he had recently faced, and we, as his FRIENDS, were happy to listen and offer encouragement.
Touchdown, as a agitator, did just the opposite. HE instigated this and I'm happy to say that he will no longer be a threat to our community. If friendliness and communal involvement are not your cup of tea, that's fine, walk away, don't be a jerk about it.
In closing, let me just say that WolfRo is an excellent server with great, helpful, active GMs willing and ready to preserve the peace if necessary. I personally got a kick out of watching the jerk get Nuke-Res Spammed and am thankful that he showed his true colors so blatantly so that he could be removed.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:07 am » |
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In closing, let me just say that WolfRo is an excellent server with great, helpful, active GMs willing and ready to preserve the peace if necessary. I personally got a kick out of watching the jerk get Nuke-Res Spammed and am thankful that he showed his true colors so blatantly so that he could be removed.
And that, tells me what kind of person you are. Why are so many RO admins so immature these days?
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:09 am » |
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Edit/additon: JJJ : I wasn't saying that the four members are why I lost respect for RMS. I lost respect for RMS for delisting me because of this persons one-sided story. I understand RMS doesn't have time to individually review every case, but it's still unfair to my players to lose a advertising way to help the community grow just because one player so far has been unsatisfied with the way I do things.
you were delisted for offering a reward for server reviews, nothing more nothing less the review has, and never had, anything to do with you being delisted the only thing in common is that the person that made the review is also the person that reported your server
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:10 am » |
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In closing, let me just say that WolfRo is an excellent server with great, helpful, active GMs willing and ready to preserve the peace if necessary. I personally got a kick out of watching the jerk get Nuke-Res Spammed and am thankful that he showed his true colors so blatantly so that he could be removed.
And you're proud of this. I sure hope other potential players see this. I really do.
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:11 am » |
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The true nature of a person and their ability to act rationally can be seen when they're under stress.
Apparently when Lige is stressed from a troll he kill/res spams, swears a lot and says the person has no friends in real life.
Take that as you will.
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:12 am » |
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sigh this is already on the fast track to warns + a lock =/
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:13 am » |
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First of all, let me just say that to judge someone or even something from 4 screenshots is ridiculous.
Secondly, I would like to point out that I can wholeheartedly recommend WolfRO to anyone and everyone with a maturity level over that of the average 3-year-old.
Hence, why I wouldn't have recommended my server to Touchdown.
I don't have screenshots or pictures or chatlogs of what has been done, but I can tell you without any reserve that Touchdown deserved what he got. He got a warning, several actually that I know of, before Lige did anything. He intentionally flamed and insulted Lige along with other members. I think it takes great mercy not to ban this jerk from our server in hopes that maybe our maturity may rub off on him. Sadly, that mercy proves to have been wasted.
Had Touchdown, or whatever his name is on here, I don't really care, decided to not be a pompous, disrespectful, and agonizingly irritating donkey to everyone he met, her might not have met with such difficulty in the server.
Next, let me say that circumstances do justify action, as seen in the "Self-Defense Plea" of our legal system. Lige at that time was speaking to me and other members of the server about some hardships he had recently faced, and we, as his FRIENDS, were happy to listen and offer encouragement.
Touchdown, as a agitator, did just the opposite. HE instigated this and I'm happy to say that he will no longer be a threat to our community. If friendliness and communal involvement are not your cup of tea, that's fine, walk away, don't be a jerk about it.
In closing, let me just say that WolfRo is an excellent server with great, helpful, active GMs willing and ready to preserve the peace if necessary. I personally got a kick out of watching the jerk get Nuke-Res Spammed and am thankful that he showed his true colors so blatantly so that he could be removed.
Yes, Lige had gone through many troubles and faced many hardships during that period of time, so the next time you critisize him, try to place yourself in his shoes and think what you would do if everything around you went really wrong and you've got this immatature two year old making trouble and causing you r life to be more miserable. If you think you can still keep a cool head, then we know what kind of person you are. In a society, only doctors have to put up with this kind of behaviour with great, positive attitudes EVERYDAY and this is the one of the MOST important aspects of being a doctor, at least in Canada. You have to face your patients with smiles EVERYDAY no matter how bad of a day you have; if all the administrators and Gamemaster can do this, then all of them could potentially become doctors and not all of the administrators on RO are doctors.
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« Reply #27 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:13 am » |
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It's called a way to get an attention, and it's not immature. If just doing it for no reason, that's immature. If repeatedly asking a player to listen/follow rules isn't working, that's a good way to warn a 2nd time -before- banning.
If you think my tactics are immature, so be it. I personally see it as effective.
JJJ: Yeah, I edited a post and apologized already. Again though, sorry. Got mixed up. ;x (I left message in users other topic regarding that)
Descent: Read top part of this post...
Rule breakers: Warned. Continue: Nuke. Continue: Ban.
It's an EXTRA warning. How is that immature? If anything that's kind...
Note: Leaving for work now. Bye bye all. Please play nice and don't flame anyone on either side of this "argument". Mods on forums this big have enough to deal with ;x
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« Reply #28 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:15 am » |
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I'm not an admin, first of all. I'm simply a member of the server.
Secondly, when I said I think he deserved it, I stand by that and see no reason for you to suddenly turn a "reap what you sow" comment into a discussion on my state of character. Touchdown "deserved" to be banned immediately, but Lige mercifully let him stay despite his better judgment, and I stand by Lige in that regard too. Hopefully one realizes that to hope for a change is not "evil" as you would try to make it out to be. It was only after several attempts to fix Touchdown's attitude that Lige even warned him, and several attempts later that this happened. You're not even getting half the story. It's like you're trying to see the world though a microscope, it's just not going to work.
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« Reply #29 on: Feb 21, 2009, 10:17 am » |
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It's called a way to get an attention, and it's not immature. If just doing it for no reason, that's immature. If repeatedly asking a player to listen/follow rules isn't working, that's a good way to warn a 2nd time -before- banning.
If you think my tactics are immature, so be it. I personally see it as effective.
JJJ: Yeah, I edited a post and apologized already. Again though, sorry. Got mixed up. ;x (I left message in users other topic regarding that)
Descent: Read top part of this post...
Rule breakers: Warned. Continue: Nuke. Continue: Ban.
It's an EXTRA warning. How is that immature? If anything that's kind...
Note: Leaving for work now. Bye bye all. Please play nice and don't flame anyone on either side of this "argument". Mods on forums this big have enough to deal with ;x
I've read every post you have in here. And yet, I still come to the same conclusion that anybody with more than one braincell can come up with: This could have been avoided by simply banning Touchdown when he got out of hand. If he broke rules, fine, but now, you've incriminated yourself and have made yourself look bad. That is the point I am trying to get across to you.
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